is the Australian Talent Management agency good?

kuraiza | 06/07/2007 - 12:06

Recently an extras/acting/modelling agency called Australian Talent Management (ATM) has been advertising current castings all over Australia-wide online job listings. I have been in contact with them regarding a TV series being filmed on the Gold Coast, but I can't find any information on them (other then their job listings and website).

Does anyone know this agency? Is it another NOTM?
I'm a bit concerned. They allow for a free listing on their website but in order to actually be presented to clients, they suggest you upgrade to a $100 yearly membership. I was in touch with NOTM a year ago and I recall they had a very similar system of membership.

If anyone has any information, it would be greatly appreciated. I suspect there will soon be an increase in interest in this agency following the recent spate of casting listings.

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What worries me is their

Author: Na
Date: 06/07/2007 - 12:24

What worries me is their slideshow of girls in bikinis... Obviously more a model agency than an acting agency.

I would suggest using their about page and finding second and third parties who would confirm their CVs.

This is from their service page:

"ATM contains photos, resumes, skills, profiles and video/audio reels for our artists, each with their own individual look, experience and skill base. So chances are that having logged on to ATM, you’ll find the ideal person right at your fingertips."

"Serious artists are listed on ATM. Artists obtain their own personal ATM site profile which displays photos, a resume, profile information, video footage, audio reels and more. "

So it sounds like it's just an online artist registry, which is searchable by casting agents. And you probably get some basic free features when you sign up, and then if you want special features, you pay. It's not uncommon, but I'd read all their policies very clearly before giving money. (Really, do they put in an effort promoting you, or is it just a matter of giving you web space. If it's the latter, you may as well build your own free website... if it's the former, it may be worth a look)

This is just my opinion based on their site, it would be more worthwhile chatting to someone who is signed up/has used their service.

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I'd stay away

Author: David Green
Date: 06/07/2007 - 13:49

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Whoa, you're getting ahead

Author: Na
Date: 06/07/2007 - 14:31

Whoa, you're getting ahead of yourself there... how about we find some actual comments from people who have used the service, or have heard about it. Let's not tar every agency with the same brush - let's get some proof about its legitimacy/suspiciousness first.

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06/07/2007 - 14:41 kuraiza not Walter (not verified) Just being careful

06/07/2007 - 13:57 Rory Mac (not verified) 1) ATM are registered as a

06/07/2007 - 13:59 Rory Mac (not verified) oops

06/07/2007 - 19:47 Gary McCormack (not verified) You could also do a search

Really? I'm pretty sure in

Author: Na
Date: 06/07/2007 - 22:42

Really? I'm pretty sure in Vic you don't have to pay to look that info up... I could be wrong though.

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10/07/2007 - 15:29 Sarah Josephine (not verified) I'm a model for atm

Are you saying that these

Author: Na
Date: 11/07/2007 - 09:29

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Hi. I also applied through

Author: mjmsaad
Date: 10/07/2007 - 17:48

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Wrong Attitude

Author: Labrug
Date: 11/07/2007 - 10:04

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18/07/2007 - 12:42 Joseph (not verified) Australian Talent Management

Just because they have an

Author: Na
Date: 18/07/2007 - 13:13

Just because they have an actual CV listed on their website doesn't mean it is true. If you are ever unsure of an agency or the background of someone you are going to be in business with, then you NEED to check their references and have the CV proven through three or four other sources.

'Seeming' legit is not the same as being legit.

(I'm not saying that ATM is or isn't legit. I'm just saying that you should never take something for granted, and you should always do your research before signing up with an agency. I have met very nice people who would gladly give me a lift to a show; but some of them have also stiffed me on pay, or suddenly become uncooperative. Or I discover later through a trusted friend that the person has done some dodgy things. Do your research, find coroboration for their references, and talk to as many people - both people who signed with an agency, and those who didn't/left - and it will more than pay off... Also read Jim's post below. Do some bloody research about what agents should and shouldn't do. Learn about your own rights, before you sign something that you will later regret)

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19/07/2007 - 14:38 Renee Harvey (not verified) Atm? Is it worth it

Who are you asking?Sticky

Author: Na
Date: 19/07/2007 - 14:45

Renee - who are you asking to respond?

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respected actors' agencies do NOT charge up-front fees

Author: James McDonald
Date: 18/07/2007 - 13:08

The issue, Joseph, is that respected actors' agencies do NOT charge the people they represent up front fees. When you sign up with a legitimate agency and they get you work then [with some variations] the going rate is around 10% commission that they will charge you [although many are charging up to 20% for TVCs]. This has been discussed before here at some length from memory. In most states up-front fees are illegal.

Jim

18/07/2007 - 18:07 Thomasatm (not verified) What I have to say

I may be wrong, but David

Author: Na
Date: 18/07/2007 - 18:38

I may be wrong, but David Green is a member of D2A, and not a staff member of the company. (David please correct me if I am)

If so, then it seems you didn't do enough research. We're not posting anything defamatory - just warning people to do their research before signing up.

And thank you Thomas for registering (which is free), and providing your own, confirmable, details. (Insert sarcasm here)

From the description of the site, that you have given Thomas, it sounds less like an agency and more like a website that offers 'promotional services'. You are right, there are plenty of these around - Arts Hub, QuietonSet, etc. They are not necessarily rip offs, nor am I implying that yours is. I'm just trying to get young and emerging artists (like those that post to this site looking for work) to try and RESEARCH their options, rights and expectations.

We did have someone post a scam alert for a US-based website recently, and it is easy for the legitimate sites to get caught up in the sweep. It is also easy for people to assume that a bad service is a good one simply because they assume that there are other good services out there, so this must also be good.

Now, how about you register for the site, post some contact details, and offer our reading audience some verifiable examples of what the company has done for local actors.

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Let's get the facts straight

Author: David Green
Date: 18/07/2007 - 21:30

I’m afraid it is going to take a little bit more then a few harsh (if not misdirected) words to throw me off.

Now let’s review the facts shall we:

First: My website has a link to Dare2Audition, just as it has a link to the ITA website and the FTI website. If you would examine where the links are it says “We highly recommended these websites for those wishing to start in the entertainment industry:” These are not my websites, these are site I have used and been apart of either through acting or for my companies. The entire posting you have just made is from the D2D website, not mine. Only my welcome is from my website.

Second: I meant what I said about “The reason I started running companies is because people told me that I was too young, too inexperienced, not funded and didn't have the education behind me…all the while these people are stuck in jobs they hate, flipping burgers, focusing on their studies, or not even doing anything.” It also finishes with “I could never justify doing that to a person and will encourage you to achieve your full potential. Please enjoy this site and have a fantastic day.” My company “Dragon Films” is a production house, not an agency. If a person would like something from the entertainment industry or requires my company to make something for them we are able to help out.

Third: I am a free member of Dare2Audition, I have not signed up as a member or company. I am happy to let others know that work is available. Helen, who is the owner and creator of the website, is a good friend of mine, but I have no affiliations with the website apart from posting auditions.

Fourthly: My first post on this issue is sound advice. An upfront fee is illegal and some agents do ask for money for photos and putting people on the website; however you may ask the agent to take this “fee” out of your first job, that way there is a incentive for the agent to find you work otherwise they will not take you on their books. Your comments “Unlike you Mr Green we are a team of highly trained very experienced people and have a huge amount of funding. Enough money to sue you, for defamatory comments like the ones you posted.” Like I have said I was not attacking you company, I was only stating that if people want to get an agent, to DO THEIR RESEARCH.

Fifthly: The ITA website is a forum of discussion where people like kuraiza can ask the questions like “Is this agency legit?” I merely gave some information about a pervious “agent” who posted on a job website and what kuraiza could do to see that she is not ripped off like I was.

Even your comments Thomas are valid here because it shows people where you come from; the same as my comments. Now if you do not like my comments you are entitled to your opinions, but you do not have the right to say you will sue me for deformation when the entire posting you have just done is for the wrong site. I did try to research your website but when I typed it into Google you were not there. This is another reason why I did not attack your agency personally because there was not enough information, so I gave advice to people regarding agents.

I would also like to thank Na for defending me. It is really appreciated. Smiling

I hope everyone will have an opinion to continue on…but in the mean time…

Keep Smiling Smiling

David Green
DRAGON FILMS

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You're welcome. It is quite

Author: Na
Date: 19/07/2007 - 07:52

You're welcome. It is quite clear that Thomas has only done quick scans of our websites, and not read them properly.

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18/07/2007 - 18:28 Thomasatm (not verified) Legal issues

18/07/2007 - 18:49 thomasatm (not verified) Attn-Jeff Watkins

18/07/2007 - 19:00 thomasatm (not verified) Attn-Mr Sticky apples legs (Insert sarcasm here)

No thanks. I'm not an

Author: Na
Date: 18/07/2007 - 19:08

No thanks. I'm not an actor, and I have no interest in coming to see you - to chat about what I've written here no doubt - when you still have done nothing but provide what I can already find on your site. And you will see in my previous posts, that I have not said you are not legit or respectable. Just that people should be informed before they sign anything. I believe that is one of the things that MEAA and other peak bodies suggest? And in fact, if you read the start of the thread, I do my best to defend the agency, keeping with the 'innocent til proven guilty' concept. The only thing I ever stated was that a) we needed more information before giving a yay or nay answer, and b) that commissions should only be taken after gaining work, not before.

Perhaps you need to clarify whether ATM is an agency - ie. finding work for their represented actors - or whether it is a subscription service - ie. the along the lines of Quietonset, Arts Hub, and Giglist, and other promotional websites.

Meanwhile, you've not done your research. I'm a woman.

(And you could have worked that one out quite easily by visiting my site)

And thanks so much for researching everyone else but me... amazing how you take the time to do that, but still don't provide any details about yourself, or anything else that can't be found by going to ATM's site. I would Google you... but then, who do I look for? You're not even listed on ATM.

Alternatively, you could come to me. I work in the city, not far from Flinders...

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18/07/2007 - 19:15 thomasatm (not verified) Note to all readers of this forum

Finally! A phone number...

Author: Na
Date: 18/07/2007 - 19:19

Finally! A phone number... at least that's a step forward.

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18/07/2007 - 19:29 thomasatm (not verified) I looked you up

No, I don't need help with

Author: Na
Date: 18/07/2007 - 19:48

No, I don't need help with web design and marketing. We don't have a budget. Not only that but I am currently waiting for some time when I can properly redo my site (and it also depends on what site you looked at. Well, my web stats showed you spent all of two seconds on my blog, and more time on the Freewebs site. I am waiting til Dec to stop using the Freewebs site, upon which I'll transfer it to my domain name.) I currently work for a web company, so I know all about marketing web sites. That's not the problem; we're not currently producing any work, so it's hard to market ourselves if there's no shows to publicise.

Yes, more research is better. Let's encourage other people to do so, rather than bicker over who said what.

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19/07/2007 - 00:36 Felicity Harper (not verified) So, Thomas, you wouldn't

Distinction needs to be made

Author: James McDonald
Date: 19/07/2007 - 05:29

I think a clear distinction needs to be made here between an agency and the kind of service provided by a number of online sites. Dare2Audition was specifically mentioned.

Simply put, an agent doing their work represents an actor by promoting the actors on their books to casting agents. According to the person purporting to speak for ATM, "Our higher levels of service that are offered to people who can afford to show commitment and contribute to the initial setup costs of promoting them to almost 2500 advertising agencies, casting directors and production companies." As such they shouldn't be charging up-front fees for this service. As I said, this is illegal in most states.

D2A and other sites like it are not in the business of promoting the actor: they provide resources both for actors - who have to be proactive to get anything out of the site by promoting themselves - and casting directors. It is a resource for people in the industry - a passive go-between in that sense (in fact the owners of that site are actively building up their resources such as auditions notices, etc) and their services. In other words, they are providing information to their members for an affordable fee that [especially] emerging actors can access. That they are not masquerading as agents is apparent from the profile form which has an item asking the member whether they are represented an agent or not. The D2A discussion forum which has covered the agents issue likewise supports this. Members do not enter into a contract for representation.

So, ATM cannot justify charging up-front fees by comparing themselves with D2A, Quietonset or any other such membership service. They do not provide the same services.

Jim

19/07/2007 - 09:30 Thomasatm (not verified) ATTN-Felicity Harper

What? What vested interest

Author: Na
Date: 19/07/2007 - 10:02

What?

What vested interest do I have?

I am a puppeteer, and a freelance techie. I run no agency or website that would compete with ATM. I work for a non-arts related theatre company. And the problem with your above posts (granted, you left a phone number) is that you didn't provide enough information for us to do anything but do a Google search. (Why is it that you are willing to offer verifiable info to a 'reporter', and not the rest of us? ... Oh yes, not doing your research again. Felicity did not state she is a reporter, but was referring to the fact that an agency, commented about in a different thread here, was 'interviewed' on Today Tonight.)

Again I ask - post some verifiable examples. Otherwise, enough already; the debate has run its course. Let readers get on with other topics and stop flooding this thread with repititious posts.

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19/07/2007 - 10:23 thomasatm (not verified) Enough already agreed

You could quite easily post

Author: Na
Date: 19/07/2007 - 10:28

You could quite easily post information about previous work - which wouldn't be leaking - which is what I meant.

And if you have issues with a website that has cut and paste your content, do not blame David. Blame the website that copied it.

Now I'm going back to work, and hope that no more is said on this whole topic.

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19/07/2007 - 10:36 thomasatm (not verified) Last word

Thanks Na

Author: David Green
Date: 19/07/2007 - 11:06

Thank you Na for once again standing up for me.

Now Thomas I can understand that you may feel that I am the bad person here for making comments about agencies, but like Na has mentioned I cannot be blamed for other people’s actions. I have no affiliation with D2D apart from posting auditions which is how the owner and I became friends. That is why I also have the link to the ITA website and the FTI website, both of which I have posted auditions on and had great responses.

Again I did not “bag” your agency in any of my posts. I have merely said for everyone to do their research and if it is found (which I am not saying you are) that there is either not enough information or a negative reputation, that people should avoid such agencies.

I think Na is right and that this argument has gone on long enough. An opinion was asked and I gave my two cents worth which appears a lot of people support, agree, and reinforce. I hope everyone will form an opinion on this matter and especially thank Na for vouching for me.

So to everyone (yes even you Thomas) …

Keep Smiling Smiling

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19/07/2007 - 11:37 dare2audition Agents, auditions, acting sites & accusations!!! lol!

may I join the rest of the site...

Author: Neville Talbot
Date: 19/07/2007 - 12:28

In saying "YAWN".
The debate has run its course people.
Thanks to Helen for her posting (giving info on the co., the work offered/sourced, contact info etc.) this is both useful and informative.
Thanks to both David and Mr (!) Sticky Apple Legs for their input which states clearly time and again- We don't KNOW if there is anything wrong with this agency, there isn't enough info. However, one- do your research, 2- never pay up front fees before you get work.

Thomas thanks for being here, but take 2 secs to actually listen to what was said/asked and either respond to the actual questions being posed, or stop threatening everyone left right and centre. It does not actually make your company look any more reliable or reputable. The opposite in fact.
I'm no lawyer, but have some experience in legal matters, and remain unconvinced that anything above would constitute defamatory material. That said, you can always prove us cynics wrong (I'm pretty sure we're mostly able to take it) by posting the material requested.

Anyways, I said I wouldn't write anything, and another b'''y essay pops out. (Get back to work man!)

Nev

It's the simple things stupid...

19/07/2007 - 12:50 thomasatm (not verified) Australian Talent Management- About Us

19/07/2007 - 14:35 thomasatm (not verified) What our clients have to say

19/07/2007 - 14:47 thomasatm (not verified) I could be uploading these all day :)

I will repeat what has been

Author: Logos
Date: 19/07/2007 - 15:43

I will repeat what has been said. No-one here has said your organisation is not legit. What many people have said to the people who read this thread is 1/ Do your research and 2/ Don't pay a fee up front. It is OK to pay for services such as photo shoots and so on provided you are paying a reasonable market based rate and not over the top. It is illegal in some states of australia for an agency to demand fee payment up front.

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19/07/2007 - 16:20 Rory Mac (not verified) How exciting

Let's just stop now. This

Author: Na
Date: 19/07/2007 - 16:41

Let's just stop now. This is getting silly.

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19/07/2007 - 16:56 thomasatm (not verified) Attn-Rory Mac

19/07/2007 - 18:58 Mara Luderson (not verified) So can we contact this

Here we go again

Author: David Green
Date: 19/07/2007 - 19:15

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19/07/2007 - 19:47 thomasatm (not verified) Attn-Mara Luderson

Code of conduct?

Author: James McDonald
Date: 19/07/2007 - 21:53

See next post

Code of conduct?

Author: James McDonald
Date: 19/07/2007 - 21:55

Our correspondent suggests I don't know what I am talking about. The AEIA code of practice does not refer to up-front charges, but legislation in most states does (this might not be the case in Victoria). The requirements are different in each state. Check your State for the regulations which apply. In Queensland there is actually a regulation-imposed code of conduct.

In Queensland the Queensland Department of Industrial Relations provides a Information Statement for Work Seekers (Models and Performers) under the Private Employment Agents Act 2005 - Private Employment Agents (Code of Conduct) Regulation 2005. This accessible document setting out the requirements for agents and performers is in a pdf document at http://www.dir.qld.gov.au/pdf/ir/info_01statement2005.pdf

Up front, the Qld regulations require the agent to give the actor a statement that reads [inter alia] "We must not charge you a fee for finding, or attempting to find work for you...."

The Queensland regulation limits fees to 10% of GROSS income (that does not include a number of payments including superannuation, meal allowances etc). And it REQUIRES the agent to pay you WITHIN 7 DAYS and give you a statement of the payment within 10 days. Under some circumstances agents in Queensland can charge more than 10% but the agent can charge more than these fees only if you have accepted in writing a management agreement, under which the agent must be provided you with at least 4 of these additional services:
o Handling of your business affairs;
o Providing accounting advice;
o Publicising and promoting you;
o Providing ancillary services;
o Providing continuing career or artistic advice; and
o Representing you in negotiations with media, entertainment workers or the public.

There is a complaint form on that site.

Jim

20/07/2007 - 09:51 thomasatm (not verified) Hi James

20/07/2007 - 10:05 Thomasatm (not verified) Urgent attention

23/07/2007 - 17:18 Roland Suraki (not verified) SCAMS and other fun

Roland Suraki

Author: Thomasatm
Date: 24/07/2007 - 22:31

You are acting like a goose! I was told not to argue with people who don’t know anything about what they are talking about anymore. "They will drag you down to there level and beat you with experience"
Have a great week all and remember don't listen to the rubbish do your own research. www.australiantalentmanagement.com read the about us and ask us for references we can provide them.

25/07/2007 - 12:08 dare2audition Legality of disclosing messages from actors

25/07/2007 - 19:23 Henry Kingston (not verified) So in relation to Roland's

More than likely he has

Author: Na
Date: 25/07/2007 - 19:32

More than likely he has started putting up auditions in order to combat all the things about ATM in this thread; and the company may not have discovered this website before/thought it was a captive audience for their marketing.

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Sticky apple legs

Author: Thomasatm
Date: 26/07/2007 - 10:26

Why dont you worry about running your own buisness and stop slandering others from your previous postings "We don't have a budget we're not currently producing any work, so it's hard to market ourselves if there's no shows to publicise" I suggest you concentrate on getting a budget and product some work. Do somthing productive and stop the rubbish. As for you Henry we do not cold call anyone so I am not sure what you are talking about.

Do your research .... again

Author: Na
Date: 26/07/2007 - 10:52

First of all, I produced a show recently - in April 07. I do have enough of a budget to produce another show this year, but am swamped at my day job and can't take the time at the moment.

Secondly, my puppets are about to be used in a TVC for a project unrelated to my company. While it's not paid work, it is a good chance to have them seen.

Thirdly, a small emerging company is extremely difficult to keep going financially, especially using puppets. It's very expensive.

Fourthly, I did not slander you. I made a couple of suggestions; the first was a caustic comment I grant you, but it may be true, as I've seen other marketeers do similar things on this site. The second suggestion was that you or your company might not spend so much time on the internet scouting for theatre forums as the rest of us do; more an insult on us than you. And the third was that you might not have considered this site part of ATM's marketing plan; agai, no insult on you, you market in the way you think suits your company the best. I wouldn't post an advertisement here if I wanted a real coal miner for a TVC. Coal miners don't read this site, but actors do. Perhaps you would like to give a reason why you are now posting auditions on this site and suddenly flooding the forum with new threads, instead of trying to bait me into another fight?

Fifthly, just because my puppet company has no budget at the moment does not mean I don't know what I'm talking about. I have had an extensive professional career in theatre, undertaking a range of roles, only one of which is my theatre company. If I could work at it full time I would. Unfortunately, the real world does not work like that.

And now to get back to it...

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Sticky apple legs

Author: Thomasatm
Date: 26/07/2007 - 10:30

I meant to say get a budget and produce some work (Typo)

26/07/2007 - 12:56 Henry Kingston (not verified) So what's all this about:

Henry call me on 0430326517 I will answer all your questions

Author: Thomasatm
Date: 26/07/2007 - 15:49

Firstly we dont cold call anyone. We take 10% of our clients earnings, it is free to join our books, what was it about Teresas phone manner that made you wary?

29/07/2007 - 16:53 cris Pi (not verified) A few weeks ago I replyed

First of all, the above

Author: Na
Date: 29/07/2007 - 17:15

First of all, the above proves nothing. Getting a domain name in QLD when you work in VIC is above board. This says nothing about their work practices, it's just common sense to get a domain name that is cheap. Registering a dot com instead of a dot com.au is also cheaper, and means that you will come up in international searches far easier. Secondly, you pay for domain registration per year, and some businesses prefer to pay per year than per three/ten years (most web hosts offer those three options; one year/three years/ten years). Thirdly, when buying a domain name you must give out your business details (quite personal information, not just your email address and name) to register. This information goes into a searchable online index, which anyone with google could find. This is highly annoying in terms of privacy, so web hosts offer a 'privacy' option, which means anyone who does a search on a domain name sees the web hosts contact info and not the business who purchased the domain name.

The above applies to legit companies as well as it does to dodgy ones, because it is common business practice. Your comments prove nothing about ATM except that they are following normal domain name registration practices.

(How would I know? I bought my own domain name - from a company in NSW, when I am in VIC. I had to do exactly the same registrations, and pay for my domain name one year at a time. PS. GoDaddy is a US based web host)

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Hi Chris

Author: Thomasatm
Date: 29/07/2007 - 18:52

We do not have a Chris Pi on our books. We changed servers to a faster server. Our programmers did this, we have some of the best programmers in the country and they manage all that for us. I get the impression you are simply working for, or a friend of our competition. If posting rubbish on the internet and pointing your prospective clients to it is the best you can do to try to compete with us good luck.
On our website we have office addresses in Melbourne and Brisbane.

29/07/2007 - 19:34 cris (not verified) Australian Talent

29/07/2007 - 19:56 cris (not verified) go and check the office out

Yes it is a serviced office complex

Author: Thomasatm
Date: 29/07/2007 - 20:38

Thanks for pointing out that it is a large corporate building with many other large international firms like ours using the professional services and world class facilities. It is not one room but a large building with training rooms our suits and kitchen facilities. Located in a central city location with security parking, professional cleaners, conference room, the only thing we don’t have it a helicopter pad Smiling
Our working environment is an important aspect to the success of ATM we believe that it is important to have a clean professional working environment and we have $10 000 worth of studio equipment including high definition DVD cameras, photographic studio equipment.
Still no sir name yet you claim you paid us for some services $275 you think?
You’re funny!

29/07/2007 - 22:08 cris (not verified) $10 000 worth of studio

29/07/2007 - 22:17 cris (not verified) mate why is your company

30/07/2007 - 11:02 Thomasatm Hi Chris

Actually most of the

Author: Na
Date: 30/07/2007 - 11:06

Actually most of the comments haven't proven to be anything but supposition. And I certainly haven't been masquerading as your competition.

Sticky Apple Legs
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Puppets in Melbourne
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30/07/2007 - 13:50 Brad Dawson (not verified) Thomas still hasn't

I think either way they

Author: Na
Date: 30/07/2007 - 14:00

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30/07/2007 - 14:15 Neville Bartos (not verified) Oh shut up!! This is just

It is free to join

Author: Thomasatm
Date: 30/07/2007 - 14:51

Honestly some of you people must not have anything better to do. On our website it says in big bold writing JOIN FREE a 3 year old could read it.

30/07/2007 - 16:00 Brad Dawson (not verified) So why do people keep

30/07/2007 - 16:38 Thomasatm Hi Brad

02/08/2007 - 15:58 kathy33333 (not verified) I’m with atm and

02/08/2007 - 16:54 Ray Duffy (not verified) Seems the real feedback is

03/08/2007 - 15:26 mycomment (not verified) Atm management how can they represent people who don't have memb

In this country you don't

Author: Na
Date: 03/08/2007 - 16:15

In this country you don't have to be a member of the union to get work. However over in the UK, you wouldn't get an audition without membership in their equity union.

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09/08/2007 - 14:39 Matthew Schafer (not verified) ATM

That does sound sus. I've

Author: Na
Date: 09/08/2007 - 15:00

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18/08/2007 - 08:52 Damo (not verified) Yuh that's EXACTLY the call

Agent go-between for auditions

Author: James McDonald
Date: 09/08/2007 - 19:44

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sigh..

Author: _
Date: 10/08/2007 - 10:09

So... Matthew Schafer wants to get auditions and be put forward to roles without acutally having even a picture of himself for ATM to market him with.

$100 for a professional set of photos? Bargain.

What I think Matthew Schafer missed is that
"there is a role available"
does not mean
"you will get the part when you audition"

13/08/2007 - 17:51 Roland Suraki (not verified) Australian Talent Damagement

First, educate people.

Author: Na
Date: 13/08/2007 - 20:56

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Roland Suraki, are you the

Author: _
Date: 14/08/2007 - 12:14

Roland Suraki, are you the only person in existence? Do you seriously believe Thomas is sitting on the end of a phone just waiting for your sweet natured uncommitted wishy washy delusions-of-grandeur call.

So, you signed up, with no picture, no video, no CV, no experience.

And you want work.

The Centrelink lines over there.

No name!!!!! Jim

Author: James McDonald
Date: 14/08/2007 - 13:40

No name!!!!!

Jim

18/08/2007 - 09:00 Damo (not verified) Yuh that's EXACTLY the call

ATM

Author: Bishop
Date: 18/08/2007 - 11:08

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18/08/2007 - 19:13 Sean McFadyen (not verified) What can we do? Contact

20/08/2007 - 10:34 Damo (not verified) NOTM was exposed? Man I was

20/08/2007 - 10:40 Damo (not verified) Did you guys know that NOTM

Be very careful. Unless you

Author: Logos
Date: 20/08/2007 - 15:42

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20/08/2007 - 19:13 Leanne Sinclair (not verified) Yes, NOTM were exposed with

20/08/2007 - 19:14 Truth Seeker (not verified) Perhaps Damo could show us

20/08/2007 - 19:16 Nick Jacobsen (not verified) Today Tonight can be

And there is no evidence of

Author: Logos
Date: 20/08/2007 - 21:08

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21/08/2007 - 23:06 Damo (not verified) Heya,I'll double check now

21/08/2007 - 23:11 Damo (not verified) Oh and in NOTM's defense,

What NOTM says

Author: James McDonald
Date: 22/08/2007 - 09:07

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Jim, where does it

Author: Na
Date: 22/08/2007 - 09:52

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22/08/2007 - 11:40 Jane123 (not verified) my experience so far with ATM

From your conversation, I

Author: Na
Date: 22/08/2007 - 12:30

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22/08/2007 - 14:05 jane123 (not verified) Hi Na, the impression I was

What grabs my attention the

Author: Na
Date: 22/08/2007 - 14:23

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22/08/2007 - 15:21 Damo (not verified) Jane123,That's pretty much

22/08/2007 - 15:37 __ (not verified) igg

I did not snub him leaving

Author: Na
Date: 22/08/2007 - 17:10

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Pardon

Author: Logos
Date: 22/08/2007 - 16:11

OK, I was going to keep out of this one beyond my be careful comments but...
1/ I am with an agent who charges me no fees beyond what I expect to pay from work she gets me.
2/ I was not required to do her course, which she does offer
3/ I was not required to use her photographer but arranged my own which she was quite happy with.
4/ I do not have a show reel as I am not seeking that sort of work and she does not insist.
She does get me work she does promote me and it costs me 15% of what I earn no other fees at all.
End of story

Is that all there is? Well if that's all there is my friend, then let's keep dancing.
www.tonymoore.id.au

Na, 1.NOTM:

Author: James McDonald
Date: 23/08/2007 - 06:46

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MEAA list of agents

Author: James McDonald
Date: 23/08/2007 - 06:54

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Example of real agents

Author: James McDonald
Date: 23/08/2007 - 06:59

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23/08/2007 - 11:22 __ (not verified) Na, Thomas left his mobile

For the second time, I

Author: Na
Date: 23/08/2007 - 11:46

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30/08/2007 - 20:59 TryingToBeUnbiased (not verified) Well...

31/08/2007 - 12:59 Alex Hermann (not verified) It's been said before but

"It's been said before but

Author: James McDonald
Date: 31/08/2007 - 13:40

"It's been said before but it bears repeating - a decent agency doesn't charge you fees upfront; they take a percentage from any work they subsequently get you."

And that is why ATM and other organisations on the net that charge a fee up-front are NOT like agents. E-casters, D2A etc don't pretend to be agents. They are providing different services.

Jim

10/09/2007 - 15:20 kath333 (not verified) I am getting so sick of

23/09/2007 - 11:37 borat (not verified) why do you all keep talking

I kow we're all over it

Author: henderson.e
Date: 26/09/2007 - 09:12

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26/09/2007 - 11:42 Roland Suraki (not verified) I wish Thomas all the best

01/11/2007 - 15:26 d (not verified) I joined ATM without having

First: I'm sure this is

Author: Na
Date: 01/11/2007 - 15:49

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is the Australian Talent Management agency good?

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