ITA Finley Awards - Sat 23 Jan 2010

Melz | 10/12/2009 - 22:08

2009 ITA Finley Awards

The Independent Theatre Association of WA is proud to present community theatre’s annual achievement awards, in recognition of non-professional theatre’s adjudicated productions for 2009. The 35th Annual ITA Finley Awards Ceremony will be held on Saturday January 23, 2010 at the Judith Cottier Theatre, Perth College in Mt Lawley.

The Finley Awards are coordinated by the Independent Theatre Association, which is an umbrella organisation for community theatre in Western Australia. It represents over 60 community or amateur theatres in Western Australia.

Four dedicated ITA adjudicators attend every production entered throughout the year both in metropolitan and regional Western Australia. This year the competition is fierce with 54 productions entered, of those 37 are plays and 17 musicals - a record number of entries. About 10% are from rural clubs.

From humble beginnings in 1975 the Finley Awards have grown into one of the most prestigious events on the community theatre calendar.

Actors, directors, designers and technicians from around the state will attend and celebrate their night of nights. Awards include Best Play, Best Musical, Best Actor/Actress, Best Director, Best Supporting Female/Male, Best Emerging Talent, Best Musical Theatre Performer, Best Vocal Direction, Best Set and Best Costumes.

Finley Co-ordinator Dannielle Ashton says, "It’s going to be an exciting night and great theatrical showcase. This will be the biggest Finley Awards to date."

ITA committee member David Young says “there are lots of patrons of community theatre who aren’t active on stage and they too will be curious to see who takes out the honours”.

Last year’s Finley Award for Best Play was awarded to Deckchairs from Kwinana Theatre Workshop and the Finley Award for Best Musical was awarded to bare, presented by Playlovers in Floreat.

With entertainment from some of the best productions seen in 2009 and an electric atmosphere, if you have ever patronised a community theatre production or have been curious, then don’t miss this night of nights.

Date: Saturday 23 January 2010
Time: Doors 6pm, Awards Ceremony 7pm
Venue: Judith Cottier Theatre, Perth College, 31 Lawley Crs, Mt Lawley
Dress code: Semi Formal
Parking: Perth College Oval, entry off Beaufort St.
Tickets: $25 transaction fee applies
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Who has been nominated in
Author: Walter Plip (not verified)
Date: 11/12/2009 - 12:51

Who has been nominated in the various catagories?


Announced
Author: Labrug
Date: 11/12/2009 - 12:55
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There still outstanding shows so there are no nominations yet. The Nominations Party is on the 2nd of Jan where official nominations will be released.

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ok, so who is in the
Author: Walter Plip (not verified)
Date: 11/12/2009 - 16:28

ok, so who is in the running?


Somewhere
Author: Labrug
Date: 11/12/2009 - 16:35
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I would guess somewhere in the vicinity of 50 different shows, porbably more. If the director and club submitted the play for the awards then it is in the running. I believe there were 51 shows last year.

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Sounds about correct
Author: Taurean
Date: 11/12/2009 - 20:16
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"Porbably" (Sic) quite right there Jeff.....

or are you being "kewt"?

"Each morning is the dawn of a new error" - anon.


Urgh!
Author: Labrug
Date: 11/12/2009 - 20:43
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Bleedin typos and poor proof-reading skills.

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Finley Awards
Author: Norma
Date: 12/12/2009 - 10:17

This is from memory as i've got all the info in the office!

Plays 34, Musicals 14

Let you all know numbers on Monday- much will be revealed on January 2nd at the Nominations Night!


Check the other posting
Author: JustSuse
Date: 12/12/2009 - 10:40
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In the other posting about the Finleys it clearly states that there are 54 entries this year. 37 plays, and 17 musicals.

Cheers, Sue.


Finleys 2009
Author: Norma
Date: 13/12/2009 - 13:23

With the list in front of me:

37 plays and 17 musicals as stated


So who's going to win?
Author: crgwllms
Date: 14/12/2009 - 12:16
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So who's going to win?

Not wanting to be outdone in the impatience stakes, rather than simply demanding to be told early who is in the running, I demand that the ITA tell us now who has won. In fact, while you're at it, tell us which plays are going to win next year as well so we can plan ahead and produce them!

Surely that's as reasonable a demand as the one above?

Cheers,
Craig

~<8>-/====\---------


Pushed to the limit
Author: Labrug
Date: 14/12/2009 - 12:57
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That's stretching the boundaries of friendship a little isn't it Craig? I mean, I am still a few months away from fixing the last few bugs on my TIDD (Temporal Instant Displacement Device). Honestly, can't you wait just a little longer?

 

Rolling on the floor

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Are we there yet?!?!
Author: Taurean
Date: 23/01/2010 - 14:14
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Have you got that TIDD thingamajiggy working yet Jeff?

People need to know NOW so that we know where not to doze off tonight.....

Just Kidding!!

Anyone who can fall asleep during a Finley Awards night must be on some serious sedatives.....

"Each morning is the dawn of a new error" - anon.


Lemme guess- A Streetcar
Author: Nostradamus (not verified)
Date: 20/12/2009 - 23:56

Lemme guess-

A Streetcar Named Desire
She Stoops to Conquer
Possibly Romeo & Juliet, Blackbird or maybe Admirable Crichton?
Am I getting warm?


Nominations Night
Author: Labrug
Date: 21/12/2009 - 00:01
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We'll know for sure come Jan the 2nd.

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warmer...
Author: Walter Plop (not verified)
Date: 21/12/2009 - 02:57

warmer...


Or it very well may be.....
Author: Robert J Whyte
Date: 21/12/2009 - 07:54
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Or....The Talented Mr Ripley*
Or....The History Boys
Or....The Stillborn Lover*
Or....Blackbird*
Or....We Happy Few
Or....The Shape of Things
Or....The Crucible*
Or....The American Plan*

* Directed by previous Finley Award winner Best Play and/ or Best Director


oooh, could be!
Author: Walter Plop (not verified)
Date: 21/12/2009 - 15:19

oooh, could be!


As the old saying goes
Author: Walter Poo Plop Plop (not verified)
Date: 22/12/2009 - 15:26

It aint over 'til the fat lady screams....which she probably will when she doesn't win.


It's ridiculous
Author: Tom Caulton (not verified)
Date: 25/12/2009 - 20:06

I mention this every year. The concept is ridiculous, the competition is rigged and the ITA committee are responsible. I have seen the process year in and year out. I have sat in on meetings. It's a non-professional competition for non-professionals, yet semi professional actors/directors seem to win the awards. That's right (Semi-Pro). I won't mention names as I never do. $25 dollars a ticket is a little steep, a money making spin for several. Small fish in an extremely tight fish tank. If you want to play with the sharks, get into the ocean... go to the states... It's just a great excuse to back slap the same old people who do the same old performances everytime, they just have a different costume on.
Remember you're not Professionals. You don't get paid. It's a hobby. Sorry. Fact.

and no it has nothing to do with having never been nominated or receieving an award. I'm not an actor, nor director. I am an audience member who has watch many of the productions this year...

The Event is staged. Rob F wasn't started for this silliness.

Congratulations to all of you that have already won.

Tom (Really really annoyed how The Robert F Awards have turned out)

Now. Hit me with your reems on ethics on what constitutes professionals. Its doesn't change the fact. HOBBY HOBBY HOBBY!!!

See you in the office on Monday.


Yes, its a hobby.
Author: JustSuse
Date: 25/12/2009 - 21:31
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Tom, as far as I know we have never met. I was an adjudicator in 2008 and I can assure you the competition was not rigged. Nor did the ITA Committee have any part in deciding who won any of the awards. These two statements are facts - whether you like or believe it or not.
If some people win awards more often than others, it is because they do what they do better than others.
We have very strict rules as to who is eligible. If they meet those criteria they are eligible to win, if they don't, they're not. If they receive any payment for their work - in that production - then they are not eligible.
You're quite right, we don't get paid. Yes, it is a hobby - but we work to professional standards. For most of us it is a passion, a vocation, an obsession even, but still an unpaid hobby.
I don't quite know what meetings you have sat in on, but I do know that you have no knowledge of the Finley competition being rigged, because it is not. Simple as that. If you don't like the way we do things, don't come to the Finleys.
Regards, Sue Hayward.


And frankly, who cares?
Author: Bass Guy
Date: 25/12/2009 - 22:14
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The Finleys are about as valid as the Oscars, or (worse) the Grammys. They're a popularity contest; a simple token of esteem formally granted by one group of people in WA's community theatre to a noted few who have been deemed worthy to receive a mission-brown-painted trophy and certificate to "prove" that they are good at what they do for a hobby. Nothing more, nothing less.

I have been a Finley adjudicator in the past, and have my own reasons for decrying the whole thing as foul meretricious bunkum, BUT!!! I have also learnt that this event brings spurious pleasure to those who NEED spurious pleasure... and who am I to ruin their fun?

I do my bit by staying the hell away from the whole thing, and advise folks like YOU to do likewise, and leave those who are interested in it alone. Let them have their fun. Sure, they're easy targets, but there's no honour in wounding an easy target.

Your views are hereby noted. Now, leave.

Eliot McCann.


Matter for discussion
Author: Labrug
Date: 25/12/2009 - 23:35
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I am not an insider to the process so I cannot vouch for, nor shall I, it's validity, apart from saying that I know a number of the panel members, both present and past, and will vouch for their personal integrity and honesty.

If I recall correctly, quite a number of productions that have won awards in the past few years have been NON-professional. Certainly, some of the directors/actors that have won awards are involved in theatre in a semi-professional capacity, yet the productions they were involved in were more often than not Am not Pro. I say "more often than not" only as I cannot be certain of the Am/Pro status of all the shows that have been nominated or won.

As for the claim of sitting on meetings, (someone correct me if I am wrong here) I thought that Adjudicator meetings were closed-door meetings. If that is so, you cannot have been privy to the decision making process, legit or no, unless you yourself have been adjudicator at some point.

I agree with your point about it being a hobby. It is. I, like so many others that I have worked with, am very passionate about my hobby and strive to do the best that I can. Other hobbies have competitons you can enter - photography, model building, skate-boarding, non-professional cricket clubs and other Am Sports groups, creative writing, etc. The Finley's are just a highly organised awards night similar to these other hobbies.

As for the validity of the Awards itself, anything that helps support, promote and celebrate WA Theatre I fully support. Do they mean anything life-shattering important? No. Is it great to acknowledge and celebrate what we do? Yes it is.

Fair enough you feel the thing is a sham, and you are not the only one I'd wager. That is your choice.

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I'm not sure what point you
Author: jeffhansen
Date: 25/12/2009 - 21:06
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I'm not sure what point you are trying to make Tom. I can't speak for others, but I have no intention or desire for theatre to be anything other than a hobby. A yearly get together to catch up with friends I haven't seen for a while seems like a good idea to me.

www.meltheco.org.au


I think it stems from
Author: Emily Cartwright (not verified)
Date: 26/12/2009 - 07:29

I think it stems from rumours that some of the directors were paid the year for the productions they did.


Rumours are wrong
Author: JustSuse
Date: 26/12/2009 - 11:01
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Then those rumours are wrong. Nobody who has been paid for a production - in any capacity - is eligible for a Finley. Other people in the production, if they have not been paid, may be considered, but not the person who has been paid.
And yes, Jeff. You are quite right, all adjudicators meetings are closed door affairs. There is NO way this person has sat in on any of them unless he has been an adjudicator himself. I assumed he meant that he had been to some ITA meetings. Who knows?
I'm sorry that Eliot and some others think that the Finleys are 'bunkum' etc, but there are many who do not.
To each his own.
Sue.


Surely you can only speak
Author: Emily Cartwright (not verified)
Date: 28/12/2009 - 19:24

Surely you can only speak for the years you were an adjudicator, not the one just past where you weren't one?


It's a part of the conditions
Author: Labrug
Date: 28/12/2009 - 20:55
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It's in the requirements for nomination and they haven't changed. Any aspect of a theatrical production that has been professionally sourced (i.e. paid) cannot be assessed for the Finley's.

If your set was professionally built, you cannot be assessed for Set Design.

I think the rules are somewhat sterner when using professional actors and directors.

These rough guidelines form a part of the submission process. Anyone who has been involved in the submission of a production this year could confirm that.

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As I understand it....
Author: jmuzz
Date: 29/12/2009 - 07:41
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...having definitely sat in on meetings as a member of the ITA committee a cpl of years back (and no, the rules have not changed since then), if you earn a living as a professionalin any capacity, you can not win a Finley. Example - my girlfriend does casual work as an actor for a training company - she can not be eligible for an acting Finley while that is the case.
Rumours about directors being paid? Seriously? Who starts these things? For any director worthy of being paid I can't think of a worse hell than working in an amateur production. Actors who don't learn lines until the last minute, accomodating everyones need to be away "just this one rehearsal".......you'd have to be certifiably nuts...if you were a professional. The only payments to directors would be for out of pocket expenses (purchase of props, etc) which is the company's discretion and perfectly valid.

Eliot, normally I'm in sync with you in the "bah, humbug" stakes but I have to differ on this occasion and point out the wise words of Mr Jeffery Hansen a couple of posts back. I say the same thing every year...every year...what's wrong with holding an annual knees up where the different clubs can come together and old friends share a beer together?
Forget the damn awards - how about the fellowship?
The fact is that the awards are part of the glue that hold the theatre community together and perhaps that sense of community would survive if they disappeared...and perhaps not.
I know a great number of people now who I first met at Finley award nights. I thank the ITA for the opportunity. The day the award night gets under say 200 attendees I would agree - do away with it. Given the numbers have increased in recent years I can't see that happening. Seriously guys, it's all about the occasion and the awards are a little less important or controversial when you adopt that attitude.
Let's do away with Christmas and just bring the awards forward.


A rare breed
Author: Bass Guy
Date: 29/12/2009 - 09:01
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The young jmuzz is a rare man amongst many- he's in it for the fun. So am I; which is precisely why I don't bother with the Finley Awards. I don't "need" them. I find them a distraction that takes away from the real reason we do this hobby. And I concur with him that whilst the fellowship is important, you COULD have a knees-up and do away with the Awards completely.... that'd be novel....

As I say each year, every year; quoting Bela Bartok: "Competitions are for horses".


Rule updates...
Author: Paul Treasure
Date: 30/12/2009 - 12:37

Sorry Muzz...

The rule affecting Melissa has been tweaked since then, and is, anyway, a Dramafest rule, not a Finley rule.

For the Finley Awards, a professional is defined as anyone who is paid for that production.
And that is paid, not reimbursed!

For the Dramafest, it is anyone who earns the majority of their income from theatre/film/tv is a professional.
Although we have since tweaked that to exclude minors and full-time students.
And Mel was the example we used when we brought the rule in.

So, yes, if a show has a paid director, it cannot win best director, and hence probably won't win best production either, but the unpaid actors can win best actor.


El, it's your use of the
Author: Dean Schulze
Date: 29/12/2009 - 09:48

El, it's your use of the word "Competitions" in that quote that sums it all up for me.
Some see winning a Finley as the reason they are involved. They are the ones for whom the use of the word "competitions" is valid. Others involve themselves in this all-encompassing hobby because we love it. If a Finley comes along, well and good, but it should not the overwhelming reason for doing it.


More concurrence!
Author: Bass Guy
Date: 29/12/2009 - 10:01
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This must be why you and I get on so well, Dean!

8-D


Here's the rub
Author: jmuzz
Date: 29/12/2009 - 14:34
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Probably the primary reason the ITA exists (although not the only) is the administration of the Finley awards and Dramafest. If we do away with the Finleys it oould be argued that the ITA would have little to do and therefore no real need to exist.
If that were to happen, who would organise this all-very-good-in-concept annual get together without awards? I s'pose the individual clubs could nominate a representative to meet with other club representatives to thrash something out but would the numbers suffer because there was no occasion other than a knees up?
I'm guessing yes. The way I see it, some people (some of whom I like a lot) would not attend if not for the possibility of some recognition for either themselves or their club. Would Kalgoorlie for instance travel all the way to Perth for a party? Actually, thats a stupid question knowing them. Let me rephrase that - is it not more reasonable that there be some sense of occasion to encourage out of town clubs to attend? The Finleys, love 'em or hate 'em, fills that requirement and brings many old friends together which a simple "party" may not do.
Personally I don't have a problem with an amateur club or conglomerate doling out awards for good work. It's in the same category as any club having an annual awards night whether it be an aero club, a bowling club, a seniors club, etc etc etc. I can't understand Tom Caulton's assertion that it is "ridiculous" to hold such an awards night for an amateur pursuit. It's no more ridiculous or subjective than the Oscars which are truly a popularity contest even though run by professionals.
Ridiculous is taking it seriously. Treat it as a bit of a laugh and stop preaching from the mountain.
Why does everbody suddenly swallow a bucket load of serious pills when the subject of the Finley awards comes up?
Lighten up people.


What rub?
Author: Bass Guy
Date: 29/12/2009 - 14:50
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"Probably the primary reason the ITA exists (although not the only) is the administration of the Finley awards and Dramafest. If we do away with the Finleys it could be argued that the ITA would have little to do and therefore no real need to exist."

You're making it very hard for me not to burst out in demonic Vincent-Price-like laughter here.... >8-D


But seriously (!)....
Author: Bass Guy
Date: 29/12/2009 - 14:57
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...everyone swallows the proverbial serious tablets at Finley Time because there is a PRIZE at stake!! And it is deep-set in the human (and particularly the Australian) psyche that One Must Win At All Costs. One has no truck with failure; failure is commonplace, success is rare- hence why everyone gets so worked up about winning something... ANYthing....

The best "prize" one should aim for (in my boastful conceited opinion) is the acclamation of complete strangers directly after your performance/production. Far more valuable than a crertificate or cash-prize.


:) LOL
Author: jmuzz
Date: 29/12/2009 - 22:25
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El, you are a card and the card trick all in one. God bless you for selling your point of view with all the subtlety of a broken glass in the face.
I'll see your Vincent Price laugh and raise you a Peter Lorre snicker at the thought of one Eliot McCann winning a Finley for his performance in Blackbird. That sir would be the very definition of irony Eye-wink
Perhaps we should have an awards night dedicated to rewarding spectacular failure. That would seem an acceptable middle road - after all, that would be treating what we do as a hobby - failing but trying hard. I could win one of those awards. Say, that sounds appealing....having my mediocrity recognised by my peers. Think I'm on to something here..........


hobby horse
Author: John Grim
Date: 29/12/2009 - 22:52

I do so try hard not to buy into these threads, however, one must occasionally dip one's feet into the water. To begin with, I'd like to know where the ITA have advertised the Finleys as a competition? Of course, human nature being the beast it is, it will always end up (for some) being a competition. So what? The intention of the event is to showcase the wealth of talent Perth's theatre community has in abundance. And if anyone doubts that then I'm going to ask for a Rod Stewart cut next time I get down to the barbers.

Bass Guy, states 'the best "prize" one should aim for (in my boastful conceited opinion) is the acclamation of complete strangers directly after your performance/production. Far more valuable than a crertificate or cash-prize.' The question begs, why is recognition from one's peers of any less value?

Bass Guy also suggests that the Dramafest and Finley's are there as reasons for the ITA to exist. If I were a member of the ITA committee, I would be somewhat bemused, or even pissed off at that suggestion, however, that is my opinion, and fortuantely, I am not said member of the ITA committee.

As for Tom's comments, all I can say really, is that the people who do this for a 'hobby' can sure teach those who do it professionaly a thing or two. I dare say that some of the shows I've seen this year will be as good as, if not better than, some of the fodder that will grace this years Perth festival.

Anyway, I could go on, but an old man like me must be off to bed, to sleep and to dream of my hobby becoming a real job one day soon. A fanciful dream...ah yes...but I would so hate that dream to end.

To the adjudicators who have given up their time,to the ITA committee, to the set designers, set builders, set painters (Tim Prosser take a bow, and another one), the lighting and sound people, the FOH, the off stage crews, the directors and script writers, Aunt Nellie who makes the scones for rehearsals and sells raffle tickets inbetween, the actors and musicians...and to those who see the Finleys as far more than silly trophies, I say go forth and celebrate,for each and every one of you has good reason to do so.

here's to the New Year

Johnny Grim
A lad in sane productions

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Grim Tidings
Author: Labrug
Date: 30/12/2009 - 00:42
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Mr Grimm, I had been struggling with the words and now find that you have answered for me. I know El (and a lovely chap he is) and I understand his views on awards, and perhaps even share them (to some degree.) Wow, a few of brackets in there...

However, like yourself JG, I see the Finley's as much more than competition and award. It is a demonstration of Community Spirit and Community Acknowledgement.

WA has a vast array of talent, and I have had the pleasure of working with many of them. It is a massive community yet I am continually surprised how many people are unaware of it's existence or scope.

The Finley's (like the Logies and Academy Awards) are not about awards for individuals, although it can appear like it is. It is an acknowledgement of the wider community as a whole. A singular community coming together to celebrate their passionate hobbies.

Yes, some people take it a little more seriously than that. That's to be expected. Some people use Community Theatre as a jump into professional theatre. However, it cannot be denied that the Finley's do a lot to encourage and support Community Theatre in WA and that, to me, is why we do it.

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Giddy up!
Author: Bass Guy
Date: 30/12/2009 - 07:20
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At the risk of riding the nag into the ground, and then subsequently flogging it, I will respond to a couple of points in JG's excellent post:

"The question begs, why is recognition from one's peers of any less value?"

Recognition from one's peers is lovely, certainly- but recognition from complete strangers is unsolicited (and often requires a bit more bravery), and in my book that reason alone gives it more weight. If someone you don't know comes up to congratulate/critisise what you've just done, they've made a effort to do so which is exceptionally generous. Friends/peers can often feel "obligated" to tell you that "you were faaaaab-ulous, dahlink", whether they want to or not. And rarely will they offer you critisism for fear of upsetting you.

As for suggesting the ITA things.... well I didn't reeeeeaaaally... but I do love poking the odd bear, because I'm can be a spiteful little git at times, who hates committees.

And as for jmuzz's utterly asinine suggestion that I would actually *win* a bloody Finley.... rapiers at dawn, buddy! You name the locale!! Eye-wink


Well...
Author: Robert J Whyte
Date: 30/12/2009 - 09:54
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You never know El, you might have two matching certifcates on the wall upstairs...a his and hers.

Muahahahahahaha!


Pah!
Author: Bass Guy
Date: 30/12/2009 - 11:08
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There's as much chance of that happening as a snowball successfully negotiating its way through the Ninth Circle of Dante's Inferno.

Without a map.

Jen's got it sewn up, methinks....


Double Pah!
Author: Paul Treasure
Date: 30/12/2009 - 12:29

Hey El,

"There's as much chance of that happening as a snowball successfully negotiating its way through the Ninth Circle of Dante's Inferno."

You really might want to reread Dante's Inferno before you make that comparison...
The ninth circle of hell is the frozen lake where the worst sinners are kept cryogenically frozen but still alive...

"Without a map."

And a snowball can't read anyway...

[sorry... Paul being a literary wanker again... Sticking out tongue ]


Rapiers at dawn???
Author: jmuzz
Date: 30/12/2009 - 11:09
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No way - you're way to handy with swordplay. Best out of 3 at bowling on the Wii perhaps?

Johnny Grimm - it wasn't actually poor Eliot who suggested that the Finleys and Dramafest were a primary reason for the ITA's existence. It was me!!!
And, I think you will find, one of the primary reasons the ITA was bought into existence WAS the administration and running of the Finleys. Having been a committee member in recent years, they certainly consumed a fair amount of meeting time and my point was that without the Finleys and Dramafest, the need for such an umbrella organisation as the ITA dissipates to a certain extent. God bless 'em, they have been instrumental in dealing with such major issues as insurance, grants, alcohol legislation, etc last couple of years but if the clubs had been forced to deal with such things without the ITAs leadership, I'm sure they would have.
Anyway, point is, my comment wasn't meant as a slap in the face Johnny. Believe me, the running of the Finleys and Dramafest are major organisational headaches and thankless tasks. My thanks to the committee for tackling them Smiling
My bet is, that like the previous three years, there will be people who can't be pleased whether it be lack of water service, length of the evening, implied bias on the part of the adjudicators, some small oversight in regards to bar service/administration of bar, lack of red wine in favour of white wine, lack of white wine in favour of red wine, choice of hosts, availability of smoking areas, failure to award an award for a particular aspect of theatre, venue, instructions on how to reach the venue, trouble booking tickets, ad nauseum, ad nauseum, ad nauseum. These complaints will be delivered with the subtlety of a punch to the face by the complainants none of whom have probably lifted a finger to help in any capacity. It really is amazing how quickly the season of goodwill passes and the season of festering discontent enters. *Sigh*
Maybe it won't happen this year....maybe


The Masses
Author: Labrug
Date: 30/12/2009 - 11:18
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Can't Please All. What is sadly lacking is the amount of Compliments. Is it not odd that everyone raises merry hell when something is not quite right, that single millimeter out of alignment, yet for those that find nothing to complain about or even enjoy something, very little is ever said.

That is why when I get good service at the local store, I let someone know about it. Preferably in Management. No news is good news is really hard to measure.

This, of course, does not address the litigations and death threats that come from those anonymous individuals, most of which hold as much validity as a collander holds water, but that is another story.

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Free water is required
Author: Water Boy (not verified)
Date: 30/12/2009 - 11:49

Free water is required under responsible service of alcohol legislation. Simple as that. Details at http://www.rgl.wa.gov.au/Default.aspx?NodeId=94&DocId=117


Don't foget it's not the
Author: JoeMc
Date: 30/12/2009 - 12:41

Don't foget it's not the water, but the plastic bottle, that has a 'use by' date! Before you cross 'Styx'!


Not a chance, but maybe
Author: Robert J Whyte
Date: 30/12/2009 - 12:58
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Not a chance, but maybe this year after the event those of us that contribute regularly should not buy into the usual shit fight about the evening and the results, from the usual uninformed ignorant faceless trolls out there.


And instead of bitching,
Author: William Clancy (not verified)
Date: 30/12/2009 - 15:59

And instead of bitching, there could be a tip jar at the Finley bar (both the nominations and awards nights), dedicated to raising money for the victims of the Toodyay fires (and clearly marked as such). Then, at the end of both evenings, the money could be given to the Bendigo's Bank appeal.


What a great idea, will you
Author: Robert J Whyte
Date: 30/12/2009 - 17:54
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What a great idea, will you organise it please William?


How hard is it to put out a
Author: William Clancy (not verified)
Date: 30/12/2009 - 19:07

How hard is it to put out a jar????


Very easy, just seeing if
Author: Robert J Whyte
Date: 30/12/2009 - 19:16
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Very easy, just seeing if you are prepared to put your money where your mouth is...ie get off your date and make it happen!

Go to the awards, bring your donation jar and afterwards take it in to the Bendigo Bank.

Simple!


 30/12/2009 - 19:21 William Clancy (not verified) I'll be putting my money in
Oh really? But what if it
Author: Robert J Whyte
Date: 30/12/2009 - 19:27
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Oh really?

But what if it isn't there?

Typical.


Apology to El...
Author: John Grim
Date: 30/12/2009 - 18:50

Sorry, El, I am misdirected on this one, so please accept my humble apology, and I shall instead castigate Muzz for his words...@$#$##$#$

PS: Touching on the evil competetive bug that resides in each human bean..my 8 year old son, has been taught by his parents that winning is not the be all of taking part / competing in events such like. That said you should have seen his less than smiley face when his nerd of a dad beat him at tennis on his new Wii..not happy Jan! Woe betide if he gets involved with drama in his later years...the beast that lurks within...for some it sits below the surface, for some way down deep, but its there...lurking, just waiting for an opportunity..

Speaking of opportunity, God I'm gonna be pissed when Bannockburn doesn't even rate a mention, ha!ha! Hee!Hee!

time I was going....child to thrash 3-0...oh there is some pleasure in school vacations...not much mind you..roll on February...

Grim


Apology to El...
Author: John Grim
Date: 30/12/2009 - 18:51

Sorry, El, I am misdirected on this one, so please accept my humble apology, and I shall instead castigate Muzz for his words...@$#$##$#$

PS: Touching on the evil competetive bug that resides in each human bean..my 8 year old son, has been taught by his parents that winning is not the be all of taking part / competing in events such like. That said you should have seen his less than smiley face when his nerd of a dad beat him at tennis on his new Wii..not happy Jan! Woe betide if he gets involved with drama in his later years...the beast that lurks within...for some it sits below the surface, for some way down deep, but its there...lurking, just waiting for an opportunity..

Speaking of opportunity, God I'm gonna be pissed when Bannockburn doesn't even rate a mention, ha!ha! Hee!Hee!

time I was going....child to thrash 3-0...oh there is some pleasure in school vacations...not much mind you..roll on February...

Grim


ITA & The Finleys
Author: Penny Searle
Date: 30/12/2009 - 20:57

Hi Murray

Love your input/discussions on various topics as indeed, I love to read other peoples opinions as well. Keep writing folks.

May I just make a teeney, weeney comment?

The ITA was incorporated in 1984 (I remember it well!) to continue to administer the Drama Festvals that I had run in 1980, 1982 and 1984 and to act as a resource centre for Community Theatre (to assist Community Theatre Groups to access scripts, insurance, actors, props, information etc, to run workshops and to be a united voice for Community Theatre).

At that time the Finley Awards were administered (in trust) by the Playhouse. It was a couple/or a few years after 1984 that the Playhouse, due to financial reasons (I believe and someone please correct me if I am wrong) offered to the ITA and the ITA agreed to administer the Finley Awards.

The Finley Awards was not "one of the reasons" that the ITA was formed. However, having stated what happened all those years ago - the ITA was the logical choice available to the Playhouse at the time that it wanted to cease adninistration of the Finley's as the ITA was, and still is currently, the only truly established body representing "amateur" theatre gruops in WA. Just a mute point I know, Murray, but an important fact in the history of the ITA.

Happy New Year to all. May 2010 be good year for all of you.

Cheers for now.

Penny


Oom-pah-pah!!
Author: Bass Guy
Date: 30/12/2009 - 13:29
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I don't want to re-read Dante's inferno again, thanks kindly for the offer! Eye-wink

I do however bow to a literary knowledge more thorough (and wanky) than my own! Hee hee hee....


Thanks Penny
Author: jmuzz
Date: 01/01/2010 - 09:46
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Point taken.


Even if it was
Author: crgwllms
Date: 02/01/2010 - 00:54
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Even if it was mute.

Cheers,
Craig

~<8>-/====\---------


Nominations anybody?
Author: Moi (not verified)
Date: 23/01/2010 - 02:10

Ok I've just read through everyone's comments (good & bad) but I've reached the end and still there is no mention of the nominations?


check out;- '2010 finley noms'
Author: JoeMc
Date: 23/01/2010 - 06:22

Check out;-

 http://www.theatre.asn.au/billboard_bulletins/ita_link_finley_nominations_by_club


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