starnow.com.au

lilfiz | 21/01/2009 - 14:36

I recently come upon a website starnow.com.au I was just wondering if that site is helpful to struggling actors. From my knowledge, what they do is that you subscribe with them $20 for 6 months, and they send you audition happening around the world. I know that these audtion are not for tv soaps, or even blockbusters. Mostly short films, and extras. I' am thinking of joining simple to gain experience. If anyone one else have dealt with this, tell me is it worth it? to gain experience, maybe some contact etc

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Author: Labrug
Date: 21/01/2009 - 14:58
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It really is simply a Theatrical Version of Seek. It does provide a nice little spot to create a profile (I have one) but not much else.

As far as I am aware, there have not been many BIG PART opportunities come through there. Most production companies will still continue to use Consultants and Agents as opposed to these sites. However, I have seen extra parts being advertised (such as one recently for "Aulstralia") but I advise caution when applying for any of these as there is (as far as I can see) no restriction on who can post ads on the site.

It is really no better or worse than any other Web site of this nature, and certainly a far call from going with a professional agency.

Still, no harm in joining up.

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thanks for the heads up
Author: lilfiz
Date: 21/01/2009 - 15:03

thanks for the heads up bout who posting the auditions. I might as well join $20 for 6 months isn't that bad. And also the higher the chances will when seeking agents and them taking me on, with experience on film/tv then have none

No harm done yeah?


I wouldn't recommend the
Author: Na
Date: 21/01/2009 - 15:39

I wouldn't recommend the site (we had a recent small discussion on it; there was mixed reviews). Frankly, there are better sites out there. This one to me looks like (as Labrug hinted at) a simple classifieds ad site, where no one really runs it or oversees the info provided.

There are sites out there that are better - Arts Hub, Aussietheatre.com, Screen Hub, and Quietonset are the best I've seen - and are actually run by people in the arts, who have contacts and actively find info and news. Secondly, most of the sites out there post the same info, because the amount of actually advertised roles is small. I would instead use AT2 for a profile, get an agent, and keep the money for one of the above sites.

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Ive been apart of that
Author: angela1
Date: 23/01/2009 - 16:53

Ive been apart of that website before and I found it very helpful. I found myself an agency through them and there are heaps of agency casting calls. They do have a few auditions for shows on channel 31 if your looking for experience, and also there are heaps of opportunities if your a model. I was apart of starnow for about a year and had heaps of auditions, and gained a lot of experience to add to my resume.

You can look at a list of the Jobs & Casting calls here: http://www.starnow.com.au/Jobs-Auditions/Australia/


starnow
Author: hyper (not verified)
Date: 26/01/2009 - 13:35

My girls have been members for just over six months, so far they have auditioned and had roles in 2 feature films and the older 2 short films also. Although the short films and 1 of the features were for film school students, it has opend up learning experience for them. Gaining experience is what they need.

Also agents are always advertising. my experience has been good so far but my girls are also with AT2 which most agents require.


Great
Author: Labrug
Date: 26/01/2009 - 15:36
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Thanks for the feedback. I get weekly posts from the site to keep a track on what's going on around Australia. It's a sad ongoing story that there seems to be so little for WA talent and it holds true for StarNow. There is probably one in 50 jobs for WA people and as you said they are usually Student films.

To all, as I have said before, you are not likely to see professional opportunities being advertised (although it does happen) so do not expect to join SN and see big buck offers come streaming through your inbox. As you have said Hyper, student films may not pay, but the experience and the possible contacts you develop can be invaluable.

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no pay student films
Author: hyper (not verified)
Date: 26/01/2009 - 22:44

My 8 year old's first acting experiences was with a sydney film school. The first she had to audition and the second she was requested especially and the script was written for her.

What was also great is they arranged money in there budgets to help petrol costs as we live approx 5-6 hours from sydney.

To tag on off topic - getting to the agent thing. I have been searching and searching agencies, so far so many are charging 'membership fees' and you have to use their photographers again at considerable costs.

I am at a point where I want to rip my hair out. I have gone through the posts regarding atm, I am now so confused, I signed my girls up to them yesterday because they were free. Now I am not so sure.

As I said, we live 5-6 hours from Sydney which means between $100 and $200 in petrol to travel, not to mention taking the kids out of school for the day or two and possible accomodation if too tired to drive back home the same day. I am very willing to do this for auditions and work, even the unpaid work for the acting experience.
That is why I don't want to pay agent membership fees and high photography fees.

Again another topic regarding photographers, my girls have professional photos, they were done in Sydney with a photographer on a TFCD basis, very greatful for that. So why do agencies insist on paying when there are photographers out there willing to do the photos for free.

I will admit I am a dumbass when it comes to this industry, I know nothing, don't know what I am doing most of the time. I sometimes think maybe I should represent my children,as so far I have found them some work via starnow, but I don't know the first thing about doing it, where do you go to learn about becoming an agent without being employed by an agency?? And what is the best way to get the contacts?

I just realised that my girls have been members of starnow for 12 months, and within the last 2 weeks they have become members of AT2, maxcasting (free) and today signed up at people2view, have subscribed to quietonset emails and then also a couple of days ago atm (still waiting for reply) but have since read posts regarding atm causing confusion.

Sorry gone on a bit, tired and getting frustrated. I guess it is coming down to.....

Can anyone recommend an agent in Sydney that charges commission only and is happy for clients to provide own proffessional photos etc ???

thank you for letting me have a whine..... I think I need it.. cause I feel now I definately need help....


Hi guys, Recently on
Author: henderson.ee (not verified)
Date: 28/01/2009 - 11:16

Hi guys,

Recently on another website I am with, starnow.com, a feature film auditioning in Australia was listed. The film is called "Rebecca". The production company was not listed.

I applied through the website to see what would happen and came back to see that there was a message in my inbox explaining I had been short listed and to send my CV and headshot through to a PO address would be the next step. It is a paid role and you must be willing to travel. It was not that it seemed dodgy but when googling the title etc... found nothing. So not to sure how legit it is. Has anyone heard of "Rebecca" that is auditioning???

Also, My contract that I signed last month with my new agent starts Feb the 1st but they did mention a couple of things they had in the works during the interview and said they may be in touch before feb. When I do contact them in the next couple of days, what questions do I ask without seeming rude and pushy about furture endeavours. Whats the regular lingo with an agent when you haven't heard from them in a while? I don't want to lose touch but I don't want to be unproffessional.

Thanks guys!!!


You mean you were
Author: Na
Date: 28/01/2009 - 11:30

You mean you were shortlisted for a film that you
a) didn't apply for?
b) didn't send in a resume or headshot for?
c) didn't audition for?

Yeah that sounds like the epitome of dodgy. Although I've not used starnow, I do understand there is the option of having a profile no? Even with a profile, no one legit would hire you without first seeing an application and/or audition.

I would either avoid them (the problem with actors is they always think 'oh no, this opportunity sounds so great, if I don't take it I'll miss out'... instead, you should be thinking 'there is always another role around the corner') or ask them a lot of questions. Questions like
a) can you give me references
b) can you tell me how you are funding this
c) these future endeavours, will you be auditioning for them or just re-using everyone
d) get them to discuss details... keep asking questions until you get enough info to satisfy yourself

Remember, you're as much auditioning them as they are of you

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SN Clarity
Author: Labrug
Date: 28/01/2009 - 15:09
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Na - When you apply for a Star Now job ad, and you are a registered user, it posts your SN Profile to the company in question. Henderson.ee states that they applied through the website, so their SN Profile would have been sent via SN Services. As for the short-listing thing, I have a feeling (although with a little doubt) that it could very well be a case of bad wording. I think that they may have had a number of electronic submissions via SN and have "short-listed" based on the SN Profiles. They are obviously looking for more details and I would guess that an interview or audition would follow also.

To henderson.ee - even though you can find little detail about the company or the film itself does not mean dodgy, although it is a little odd. Smaller productions like university projects and the like would not be published to any great extent and while most of these require unpaid actors, some will offer some payment. There are also honest individuals out there wanting to get a start in the industry and therefore may not have to professional connections of some of you larger companies.

Now I am playing Devil's Advocate here and in now way advocate this particular "film" as I have no first nor second hand knowledge of it myself. However, while I am often heard spouting caution, caution, caution, I want to also point out that you can never be completely sure either way until you in the thick of it. Sometimes you just have to trust your instinct, judgement and (if you have any) professional advice.

If you have an agent, ask them to look into it themselves and get their opinion. They have better networks than you are likely to have so use them to sniff out hoax productions.

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I'd agree with you Jeff
Author: Na
Date: 28/01/2009 - 15:38

I'd agree with you Jeff except for one thing: I've read a number of reports from people using that site (and similar ones where there are profiles attached) and people have been cast without officially been auditioned or contacted. These include reports for castings for well-known movies, where the directors/producers would never cast or even shortlist via a website without auditions first. Some of these reports include people turning up to non-existent auditions, being then asked for payment for services (ie. casting agent services, 'premium' accounts on the site, etc.)

This is why I wouldn't recommend a site like Starnow, there's just too much chance of scams; whereas at least a site like Aussietheatre.com and Arts Hub and Quietonset are honed and constantly updated by people in the know, rather than a 'social network' version of a site where the site runs almost unadministered and anyone can post anything.

True, this site is run 'unadministered' in that sense, but at least here we have a committed community to weeding out the crap.

However, I defer to your judgment since you've seen more of the site than I have; but I agree wholeheartedly that the audition/casting notice should be considered with ample amounts of skepticism.

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Concede
Author: Labrug
Date: 28/01/2009 - 15:42
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On that well made point I will concede - The site is open to abuse from hoax postings. Of that there is no doubt. 

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Yay! Victory at last!
Author: Na
Date: 28/01/2009 - 16:01

Yay! Victory at last! Nuts

Finally I get to win an argument Eye-wink

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The Low Down
Author: bergetto
Date: 29/01/2009 - 09:03
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http://www.barkerpendree.nl

Ok. So I haven't read every single one of the comments posted here but I want to add my penny's worth anyway.

Are we talking about www.starnow.com.au ? Because this IS an administered site which is kept very up-to-date. I once sent an email asking to work for them and they replied immediately stating that they were based in Wellington NZ.
I have been a member of the site for one year and have just renewed my membership again. Why?
I'm based in Melbourne, VIC so, yes maybe there is more going on here than in WA. I wouldn't know. Would I do know is that if you have multi-skills like I do (singing, acting, modelling) I have found the site very usefull and have regular work/experience from it. What is usefull is that once you join and check the website every week, they show you which ads are new so you don't waste your time looking over old ads that you have seen before. Also I like the fact that you can narrow down your work search using all the categories, again avoiding unnecessary time looking up ads which are for younger talent or in another state.
One other thing which is rather weird is that if you are the wrong age for an ad it will say that you cannot apply but then all I do is go into my profile and change my date of birth to fit the ad and then it allows me to apply. hee hee.
All-in-all I would recommend this site but only if you have more to offer in the skills range and not just one thing.
all the best
cheers
Nick Barker-Pendree (actor/singer/model)
Melbourne


Thank you
Author: Labrug
Date: 30/01/2009 - 19:26
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Thanks Nick for your more experienced point of view. This takes the discussion down a more objective pathway. I personally felt that it was a relatively good site for what it offered.

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I think I just have high
Author: Na
Date: 30/01/2009 - 19:34

I think I just have high hopes. Maybe I just need to realise that these sites are popping up for a reason; but I still feel like there needs to be more skepticism for these sites. Especially since young and naive wannabes sign up with dollar signs in their eyes and ideas of fame, and perhaps don't do their research before handing over a fee for access.

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Always a place
Author: Labrug
Date: 30/01/2009 - 19:46
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In this industry, Online, through an agent or freelance - there will always be a place for some health skepticism.

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hey to all thanks for
Author: henderson.ee (not verified)
Date: 29/01/2009 - 18:57

hey to all
thanks for applying for the position on STARNOW for one of our up coming film we have added you on our shortlist now the next step is we need to see an CV and photos to be posted into our office our head of production depertment will make its decision if you go to the next step for an personal casting appointment.

you can post your details into the following address PO BOX (content removerd for professionalism) Australia

IMPORTANT NOTE the character that you are applying that might need to do Full nudity the casting requirement has been update with starnow since the ad was posted i did notfied starnow about it but they left this impoortant requirement sorry about this to all eairly applications listing since then has been corrected hopew you all still interested because it a great movie an we are having a few names actors in the file as well.

for any reason you did not get the part in the film the company will keep your details on file for other up coming production we do have 4 other productions that we are starting to cast soon for good luck we will chat soon

thanks

again.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This is what was recently posted.... Very iffy until I logged onto www.concorde-films.com... have a look and tell me your thoughts. I have recently won an agent (or did they win me hehe). I gues thats a good starting point of a relationship, mentioning this.

Annoying thought the fee is 15% and the first 6mnths I believe is non-exclusive (haven't sined yet, that is just around the corner though).

Anyway, your thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers


Few thoughts... this is by
Author: Na
Date: 29/01/2009 - 19:18

Few thoughts... this is by no means a condemnation of them or the ad, just off the top of my head based on a few seconds of reading (will edit if new info comes to light).

Never trust a company that doesn't even list their own contact info on their own website. Come on - only a contact form?

The fact that full nudity is added, 'last minute' sounds highly suspect to me. This, if you were working for a professional (and here I mean in terms of ethics) company, would be the first thing you would post in your ad, since it's all about being completely upfront with what the actors will be required to do.

Three, their domain name is owned by a 'Concorde Films', based in California. The PO box listed (this is public info, anyone can obtain it if they do a DNS check) is P O Box 99800. I'm guessing that will match the info you were provided. [EDIT: That PO box might not be correct; it could be the web host company's PO box. I've left the info anyway, to compare]

They list a whole bunch of references on their site: get google to search every reference before even considering the legitimacy of the company. They state they have branches around the world; yet list no physical address on their site for any branch.

A quick google for "concorde-films" only brought up random references for various movies in production and various people's bio's. There are also variations in the name that pop up, so it's hard to know what's related and what's not. It could be this is a legit company; could be someone's posing as the legit company; could be it's not legit at all.

You'd think that such a large company would list their CEO; only there's no mention of who it is or what their references are. Googling a number of the names of their productions comes up with nothing, and they don't list the titles of these 'top TV shows' that they're working on.

Their affiliate model company (CHC) links to a dead site. A DNS check reveals the site to be owned by an Aussie consulting practice which has a name that is suspiciously like a lawyers firm. Silver Star on googling could be a Canadian awards festival, as that was one of the results, but Silver Star International doesn't come up with something specific. Tri-star, is of course, real
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TriStar_Pictures

The pictures on the site are generic, so they give no clues as to whether or not the thing is real...

Either way; tread carefully, do a lot of research, and ask them a lot (a lot) of questions. Half of figuring out who's dodgy and who isn't is about gut reaction: if it's too good to be true it probably is, and if they sound even slightly off, then don't worry. There's always another role around the corner.

Also, if you now have an agent, there's no reason for you not to call them up and ask them to do a background check on Concorde and/or the ad. If it's a legit company with 'branches around the world', then there's no reason to think that the agent won't have either heard of them before, or have access to contacts who have.

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thanks for all your help
Author: henderson.ee (not verified)
Date: 30/01/2009 - 07:21

thanks for all your help na. My next step is to write my agent an email and I will be in touch and let you know.


thanks for all your help
Author: henderson.ee (not verified)
Date: 30/01/2009 - 07:22

oh and... the PO BOX is different. It is a NSW PO BOX?????


No worries; as for the PO
Author: Na
Date: 30/01/2009 - 09:53

No worries; as for the PO box, feel free to ignore. It could be the US PO box, it could be one that is owned by the web hosting company (some info as to contact details of who owns the domain name referred to the web hosting company. This is normal, as some people don't want their info so publicly listed and instead use their web host's info to mask it. That says nothing about the company itself; I've used a similar service for my site)

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